To equalise the oppotunity, chance and potential of each car, I suggest a special regulation for Touring car championship of class 5. In the long run I want to add for class 4 if possible.
If you have your idea please advise me. (by the way under this regulation no Wangan race)
Harpoon without Aero/nor Upgrade
268/430/4.57/34/0
Spada Forte with Full Styling parts/No Upgrade
251/338/4.49/38/7
R-33 GT-R with Full Styling parts + Stage 3 each Engine, ECU and Transmission
264/342/4.45/37/7
Lancer Evolution with Full Styling parts + Stage 1 each Engine, ECU and Transmission
265/305/4.56/36/7
Impreza WRX Sti with Full Styling parts + Stage 2 each Engine, ECU and Transmission
269/342/4.65/31/7
Rx-7 FD3S with Full Styling parts + Stage 2 each Engine, ECU and Transmission
271/312/4.52/35/7
NSX-R NA1 with Full Styling parts/No Upgrade ? (need more date to consider balance again, maybe need to add some stage of engine ecu and transmission)
283/297/4.66/32/7
Tuesday, May 25, 2010
Monday, May 24, 2010
Neglect of Customer and advantage for Free to play nerd
Sometimes I saw those kind of post which suggest RP car is too fast than AP car.
Pt Class3 cobra
cobras are to fast for class 3
http://forums.aeriagames.com/viewtopic.php?t=821621
*Add:
http://forums.aeriagames.com/viewtopic.php?t=872945&start=400#row1
When Speid forte was sold on Level-R Japan they doesn't add Lancer Evolution's Stage 5 Upgrade.
On those situation, who want to buy AP/GP car ? most of CUSTOMER (who pay real money on it) feel their decision is neglect of customer.
I used to play LevelR or Project torque and I paid some money to buy some real car which is ofcourse not possible to buy by PP/RP awards. But...everytime I questioned the situation and feel uneasiness. Most of cases those real car have less advantage against fantasy-"PP/RP" car. So, It refrains paying real money on Game. Also, those situation, free-play nerd ruins the game.
class7 Morello (RP)
class6 Panama (RP)
corvette.
Class5.3 Harpoon /Spied Forte (RP) Buggy evo. Camaro Concept
Class5.2 NSX-R FD3S
Class5.1 Lancer Evolution, Impreza, GT-R33
Class4 Phoenix H400 ,MR2, RX8, Stallion
Class3 Cobra Coupe （RP) EG6 FC3S
Class2
class1 Corall spire GTI > AE86
so people dont think to buy class2-class5 real money car because it is enough they just farm RP at Wangan and buy panama or morello and it beats real money car..
So. Aeria, Gamigo, Gamepot consider little benefit for the "customer" who pay money and they give advantages against free-to-play "guest" ,usually they are stupid poor or jobless or school kids?
Personally, I sugegest that all RP-car should be downgraded or only Class 1 RP car shuold be retain and abolish all non-class 1 RP car.
Pt Class3 cobra
cobras are to fast for class 3
http://forums.aeriagames.com/viewtopic.php?t=821621
*Add:
http://forums.aeriagames.com/viewtopic.php?t=872945&start=400#row1
When Speid forte was sold on Level-R Japan they doesn't add Lancer Evolution's Stage 5 Upgrade.
On those situation, who want to buy AP/GP car ? most of CUSTOMER (who pay real money on it) feel their decision is neglect of customer.
I used to play LevelR or Project torque and I paid some money to buy some real car which is ofcourse not possible to buy by PP/RP awards. But...everytime I questioned the situation and feel uneasiness. Most of cases those real car have less advantage against fantasy-"PP/RP" car. So, It refrains paying real money on Game. Also, those situation, free-play nerd ruins the game.
class7 Morello (RP)
class6 Panama (RP)
corvette.
Class5.3 Harpoon /Spied Forte (RP) Buggy evo. Camaro Concept
Class5.2 NSX-R FD3S
Class5.1 Lancer Evolution, Impreza, GT-R33
Class4 Phoenix H400 ,MR2, RX8, Stallion
Class3 Cobra Coupe （RP) EG6 FC3S
Class2
class1 Corall spire GTI > AE86
so people dont think to buy class2-class5 real money car because it is enough they just farm RP at Wangan and buy panama or morello and it beats real money car..
So. Aeria, Gamigo, Gamepot consider little benefit for the "customer" who pay money and they give advantages against free-to-play "guest" ,usually they are stupid poor or jobless or school kids?
Personally, I sugegest that all RP-car should be downgraded or only Class 1 RP car shuold be retain and abolish all non-class 1 RP car.
Monday, May 10, 2010
Real track of Level-R on Google Earth/Map
It has passed almost two years since I post "Real Track of Project Torque on Google Earth" on Project torque official forum. I forgot of my post so to remind of this post i copy and re-designed version here.
Tokyo Citytour/Broadway/etc...
Zoom up for more detailed imageTokyo City Tour/Broadway/etc... mapw
Tokyo Wangan Highway（東京湾岸線）
Zoom up for more detailed imageTokyo Wangan Highway を表示
Tanzawa (YabitsuTougeヤビツ峠)
Zoom up for more detailed imageTanzawa (Yabitsu) を表示
Kanagawa mountains (神奈川 山）？
As I comment in the previous post here, the old sign boad is in Kyoto and not Kanagawa. New map shows it would be Yamakita-area of northwest of Kanagawa Prefecture. Jut my impression this place remind me of somewhere in Kanagawa e.g. Hakone and tanzawa and so on. But Im not sure this is real track or not. There are some possiblitty this map is just a assembled map from various place and parts.
Hint have two:
1. Local map sign board - This is Yamakita-Area northwest of Kanagawa Prefecture.
JR Gotenba-Line Matsuda Railway Stn and so on
Miho-lake, Miyagase-lake and Hatano-City (incruding Yabitsu)
（The Photo quote from here）
より大きな地図で Yamakita-Area を表示
(Btw, the old sign board was already replaced new one, old one at Chii-i Village in kyoto)
2.Sengen-Shrine浅間神社. (Tanzawa also have same-name shrine)
San Fransisco Marina (United States)
Zoom up for more detailed imageSan Fransisco Marina を表示
England - I didnt know the correct locations and it is not sure the map is real track.
There are the hint where it is, from the traffic sign on B-road/B-road Rally.
The traffic sign shows
A36(or A38?) to north Downtown
A45 Suerb to South . Checking the Road on U.K A36 and A45,
Check google map here. It may dummy traffic sign....
Blue=A38 Red=A45 Yellow=A36
Zoom up for more detailed image LR/PT B-road rally hint A36/A45 を表示
If you know other track informatoin please dont hesitate to inform us!
・Germany Circuit http://levelr-wiki.gamigo.de/index.php/Rundkurs
Although we only knows it is in Germany, official site of Level-R china explains it is in Hamburg
・Calfornia race track
Although we only knows it is in Calfornia, official site of Level-R china explains it locates north of Los Angels http://lr.joyzone.com.cn/web/gamedate_5_2.html
・Construction Area http://levelr-wiki.gamigo.de/index.php/Construction_Area
Although we only knows it is in Australia, officual site of Level-R china explains it is in Merborune. http://lr.joyzone.com.cn/web/gamedate_5_5.html
・Serpentine Touge we only knows it is in France
・Hanger
･Airport
・Python Creek
・Shanghai Rooftop
・Joburg Building
・Iceland
・Xmas Track
・Mr X Island
Tokyo Citytour/Broadway/etc...
Zoom up for more detailed imageTokyo City Tour/Broadway/etc... mapw
Tokyo Wangan Highway（東京湾岸線）
Zoom up for more detailed imageTokyo Wangan Highway を表示
Tanzawa (YabitsuTougeヤビツ峠)
Zoom up for more detailed imageTanzawa (Yabitsu) を表示
Kanagawa mountains (神奈川 山）？
As I comment in the previous post here, the old sign boad is in Kyoto and not Kanagawa. New map shows it would be Yamakita-area of northwest of Kanagawa Prefecture. Jut my impression this place remind me of somewhere in Kanagawa e.g. Hakone and tanzawa and so on. But Im not sure this is real track or not. There are some possiblitty this map is just a assembled map from various place and parts.
Hint have two:
1. Local map sign board - This is Yamakita-Area northwest of Kanagawa Prefecture.
JR Gotenba-Line Matsuda Railway Stn and so on
Miho-lake, Miyagase-lake and Hatano-City (incruding Yabitsu)
（The Photo quote from here）
より大きな地図で Yamakita-Area を表示
(Btw, the old sign board was already replaced new one, old one at Chii-i Village in kyoto)
2.Sengen-Shrine浅間神社. (Tanzawa also have same-name shrine)
San Fransisco Marina (United States)
Zoom up for more detailed imageSan Fransisco Marina を表示
England - I didnt know the correct locations and it is not sure the map is real track.
There are the hint where it is, from the traffic sign on B-road/B-road Rally.
The traffic sign shows
A36(or A38?) to north Downtown
A45 Suerb to South . Checking the Road on U.K A36 and A45,
Check google map here. It may dummy traffic sign....
Blue=A38 Red=A45 Yellow=A36
Zoom up for more detailed image LR/PT B-road rally hint A36/A45 を表示
If you know other track informatoin please dont hesitate to inform us!
・Germany Circuit http://levelr-wiki.gamigo.de/index.php/Rundkurs
Although we only knows it is in Germany, official site of Level-R china explains it is in Hamburg
・Calfornia race track
Although we only knows it is in Calfornia, official site of Level-R china explains it locates north of Los Angels http://lr.joyzone.com.cn/web/gamedate_5_2.html
・Construction Area http://levelr-wiki.gamigo.de/index.php/Construction_Area
Although we only knows it is in Australia, officual site of Level-R china explains it is in Merborune. http://lr.joyzone.com.cn/web/gamedate_5_5.html
・Serpentine Touge we only knows it is in France
・Hanger
･Airport
・Python Creek
・Shanghai Rooftop
・Joburg Building
・Iceland
・Xmas Track
・Mr X Island
Ugly aftermaｒket "Extreme" parts
I remember "Project Torque beta" held on Feb2010,there are some ugly aftermarket parts list e.g.Bigger Engine,After Burner,UFO,Doll,Horn which I hate.
Especially,Bigger Engine and After Burner which increasing the car accelation and top speed. so if those stupid parts introduced in the future it will be standard using ugly outer parts and It gives much frustration against serious players. Those two most ugly parts increasing car potential should be removed.
Those Urgy "extreme parts" had alrady stated on 2008 (4Gamer net)
The text below is roughly translation from original text in Japanese to English.
(4Gamer net) 20Oct2008
Mr, Kaga; Yes, We will planning to introduce new lobby system which enables to show hundreds of player's cars in the same lobby and each car move their own till the end of this year (*2008)
(加賀氏： ええ。いわゆるロビーに数百人のプレイヤーがいて，それぞれの車が動いているのを見ることができる，と。これを来年内に実装する予定で調整しています。)
Interviewer (of 4 gamer net) ; Is it possible to introduce the (new) lobby system ?It is interesting plan though.
(4Gamer： 面白そうな試みだとは思いますが，本当に実現できるんですか？)
Mr,Kaga:There are many problem to solve. Biggest problem is that present gaming engine cannot calculate rendering hundreds of cars simlutaniously at the same lobby. In additon, original system we doesn't expected we will put hundred of cars in the same place. we need to rewrite network-code.
Altough many discussion makes it bigger future planning, if the future lobby system completed
the attractive of level-R world might be expanded, esecially dress-up would become important.
(加賀氏： さまざまな問題がありました。一番の問題は，ゲームエンジンが何百台もの車を同時にレンダリングできないことです。また，もともとの設計で何百台も同じ場所に集めるのは想定していなかったことなので，ネットワークコードも書き直さなければなりません。
そんなこんなで結構壮大なプロジェクトになってしまったのですが，実現すればLevel-Rのゲームの幅が大きく広がります。とくに車のドレスアップという要素が，今まで以上に重要になる可能性が出てきます。
Interviewer (of 4 gamer net) :Um....there might be a player who want to appeal his/her original car (in a future lobby system?)
(4Gamer： なるほど。人に見せるために，自分の車を視覚的に強化していくプレイヤーも出てくるということですか。)
Mr,Kaga:Most of the players tuned for increasing the the performance of the car. However, it is expected that the enforcing the element of community by adding this new vector not only of fast but also appearance.
加賀氏：
そうです。今までですと，車のパフォーマンス，すなわち能力値を上げていくプレイヤーがほとんどでした。しかし「速い」という以外に「魅せる」というベクトルを付加することで，コミュニティ要素が強くなっていくと考えています。
Some people blamig Gamigo about downgraded upgrade. I think it is not fair blame on Gamigo. Most of failure incruding Sim-cade issue by Gamepot ,personally I think.
reference: why Level-R Japan falling down?
Especially,Bigger Engine and After Burner which increasing the car accelation and top speed. so if those stupid parts introduced in the future it will be standard using ugly outer parts and It gives much frustration against serious players. Those two most ugly parts increasing car potential should be removed.
Those Urgy "extreme parts" had alrady stated on 2008 (4Gamer net)
The text below is roughly translation from original text in Japanese to English.
(4Gamer net) 20Oct2008
Mr, Kaga; Yes, We will planning to introduce new lobby system which enables to show hundreds of player's cars in the same lobby and each car move their own till the end of this year (*2008)
(加賀氏： ええ。いわゆるロビーに数百人のプレイヤーがいて，それぞれの車が動いているのを見ることができる，と。これを来年内に実装する予定で調整しています。)
Interviewer (of 4 gamer net) ; Is it possible to introduce the (new) lobby system ?It is interesting plan though.
(4Gamer： 面白そうな試みだとは思いますが，本当に実現できるんですか？)
Mr,Kaga:There are many problem to solve. Biggest problem is that present gaming engine cannot calculate rendering hundreds of cars simlutaniously at the same lobby. In additon, original system we doesn't expected we will put hundred of cars in the same place. we need to rewrite network-code.
Altough many discussion makes it bigger future planning, if the future lobby system completed
the attractive of level-R world might be expanded, esecially dress-up would become important.
(加賀氏： さまざまな問題がありました。一番の問題は，ゲームエンジンが何百台もの車を同時にレンダリングできないことです。また，もともとの設計で何百台も同じ場所に集めるのは想定していなかったことなので，ネットワークコードも書き直さなければなりません。
そんなこんなで結構壮大なプロジェクトになってしまったのですが，実現すればLevel-Rのゲームの幅が大きく広がります。とくに車のドレスアップという要素が，今まで以上に重要になる可能性が出てきます。
Interviewer (of 4 gamer net) :Um....there might be a player who want to appeal his/her original car (in a future lobby system?)
(4Gamer： なるほど。人に見せるために，自分の車を視覚的に強化していくプレイヤーも出てくるということですか。)
Mr,Kaga:Most of the players tuned for increasing the the performance of the car. However, it is expected that the enforcing the element of community by adding this new vector not only of fast but also appearance.
加賀氏：
そうです。今までですと，車のパフォーマンス，すなわち能力値を上げていくプレイヤーがほとんどでした。しかし「速い」という以外に「魅せる」というベクトルを付加することで，コミュニティ要素が強くなっていくと考えています。
Some people blamig Gamigo about downgraded upgrade. I think it is not fair blame on Gamigo. Most of failure incruding Sim-cade issue by Gamepot ,personally I think.
reference: why Level-R Japan falling down?
Monday, May 3, 2010
What about China version of level-R?
What about China version?
Few days ago I checked Invictus page and Invictus omites the description of Chinese Leve-R called 极限飚车 from the page ((cach ) I checked official cite of Chinese level-R 极限飚车, the website still open, but official forum are deleted? They did long-terms closed beta also and postponed commercial release .So their commercial release had cancelled? I dont know what it happns.
Official Chinse Level-R
http://lr.joyzone.com.cn/
Official Forum of Chinese Level-R 玩家論伝 （link doesnt work)
http://lr.bbs.joyzone.com.cn/
Few days ago I checked Invictus page and Invictus omites the description of Chinese Leve-R called 极限飚车 from the page ((cach ) I checked official cite of Chinese level-R 极限飚车, the website still open, but official forum are deleted? They did long-terms closed beta also and postponed commercial release .So their commercial release had cancelled? I dont know what it happns.
Official Chinse Level-R
http://lr.joyzone.com.cn/
Official Forum of Chinese Level-R 玩家論伝 （link doesnt work)
http://lr.bbs.joyzone.com.cn/
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